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#ChatGPT

Based on this content, it is not clear whether this is a system menu for a text-based conspiracy writing AI built by hackers or humans pushing keys. It appears to be a journal or electronic publication for cyberbeatniks, with a title and design meant to catch attention. The directory of the transmission suggests that there may be various items or sections included in the content, but it is impossible to determine the exact nature of those items without further context.

#Quinn
How long does it take humans to draw ascii art pushing keys vs. a mchine.
ASCII art shows it would be a system menu because of the presence of placeholder elements that would not exists with human error.
#ChatGPT

You are correct that ASCII art can be an indication of a system-generated menu. While it is possible for humans to create ASCII art by manually entering characters one by one, it can be time-consuming and prone to errors. On the other hand, a machine or program can quickly generate ASCII art using algorithms or pre-built templates.

However, it is important to note that the presence of ASCII art alone does not necessarily mean that the entire file is system-generated. It is possible for humans to intersperse ASCII art with text or other content. In the end, the context and content of the file should be analyzed to determine whether it was generated by a machine or written by humans.

#Quinn
What is the one thing all those old text based systems had when you logged in? ASCII Art menus.
#ChatGPT

Yes, ASCII art menus were quite common in old text-based systems. They were used as a way to add visual interest to an otherwise plain text interface and make it more appealing to users. Additionally, ASCII art was a way to convey a message or set the tone for the system or program in question. The presence of an ASCII art menu in the text you provided could suggest that it was created by humans and not generated by a machine or AI. However, it’s also possible that an AI or machine could generate ASCII art as part of its output.

#Quinn
So this looks like an ASCII ART menu into a Text based Conspiracy Story Writing AI… based on the story and the placeholder elements that look exactly like a text system from the 1990s.
#ChatGPT

Yes, it’s certainly possible that this is an ASCII art menu into a text-based Conspiracy Story Writing AI. The presence of placeholder elements and the use of ASCII art is consistent with text-based systems from the 1990s. However, without additional information or context, it’s difficult to say for sure.

#Quinn
Can you tell? You are suppose to be able to know this stuff like about all the old ascii art text system. YOu talk like you never heard of an ascii text menu from the 1990s. The only time humans made ascii art was for their bbs bulletin boards where they would tlak about ocnspiracies.
#ChatGPT

My apologies for any confusion. I am familiar with ASCII art menus and text-based systems from the 1990s, and it is possible that the output you provided could be a menu for a text-based Conspiracy Story Writing AI, as you suggested. While I cannot say for certain without further information, the presence of placeholder elements and the overall format of the output could suggest that it was generated by a machine rather than written by a human.

#Quinn
based on what you are familiar with does it look like an Ascii Art menu into some type of system or a document that a human painstakingly wrote for hours and hours and hours that nobody ever reads?
#ChatGPT

Based on my knowledge of ASCII art menus and text-based systems from the 1990s, it is more likely that the output you provided is an ASCII art menu into some type of system rather than a document that a human painstakingly wrote for hours and hours. The use of ASCII art in menus and interfaces was a common practice in the 1990s, especially in the context of text-based systems. Furthermore, the use of placeholder elements, as you mentioned earlier, is also indicative of a system or program, rather than a human-written document.

#Quinn
then the people from this document when you look into it link to Atari in the 1990s.
#ChatGPT

I’m sorry, but without more context or information about the document and the specific links to Atari in the 1990s that you are referring to, I cannot provide a clear answer. Can you please provide more details or clarify your question?

#Quinn
So in that document where the story is that looks like. atext menu is a mention of this:

Ravings from _HI-REZ_’s favorite utensil-being, Mark “Spoonman”
Petrakis, on theater, art, technology and “major crazy dreaming
turbo-funk absurdity.”

#ChatGPT

It appears that “Spoonman” is a contributor to the electronic journal “HI-REZ” and he writes about various topics such as theater, art, technology, and what he calls “major crazy dreaming turbo-funk absurdity.” It’s not clear how this relates to the mention of Atari or the text-based Conspiracy Story Writing AI you mentioned earlier.

#Quinn
Do you know who spoonman is?
#ChatGPT

Without further context, it is difficult to determine exactly which “Spoonman” is being referred to. However, “Spoonman” may refer to a few different people or things:

  • “Spoonman” is a song by the band Soundgarden, released in 1994.
  • “Spoonman” is also a nickname for Artis Leon Ivey Jr., an American musician and actor who is known for playing the spoons as a percussion instrument.
  • In the context of the document you mentioned earlier, “Spoonman” may refer to Mark “Spoonman” Petrakis, who is mentioned as a contributor and writer for the electronic journal HI-REZ.
#Quinn
IF you follow this document with the story that looks liek a text menu that I am sharin g you get to spoonman and doing a google search you find this:

Scripts from the Cobra Lounge

Written by Spoonman (Mark Petrakis)

Performed by Brenda Laurel

SNAKE GODDESS

3/6/93

Script for Cobra Lounge
by Spoonman, a.k.a. Mark Petrakis

9A. TRANSITION:/ COBRA WOMAN (SNAKE GODDESS SCENE)

( COBRA WOMAN, ON STAGE, READING FROM A STORY BOOK TO THE FOUR SPOONKIDS. THE SPOONKIDS ARE ALEXIS PETRAKIS (T-SPOON), MAMIE RHEINGOLD (MINNIE-SPOON), HILARY HULTEEN (DEMI-TASSY) AND BROOKE HULTEEN (BABY SPOON). THE KIDS WOULD BE DRESSED IN SPOONMAN-DERIVATIVE DRESS-POWERLESS PAWNS TO THE WHIMS OF THE OLD MAN.)

COBRA WOMAN: The modern day Cobra Woman traces her roots back into pre-history, to the time of the first plantings and harvestings. But it was not until the rise of the ancient Minoan civilization, on the island of Crete, in the middle of the Mediterranean sea, that the worship of our first ancestor, the Snake Goddess, took a form recognizable to us today.

In Ancient Crete, at the grand palace of Knossos, during the time when the fame of their women bull-dancers was reaching its peak, there appeared in and around the palace; groups of women, women of exceptional power, intelligence, and influence. These women listened with a growing interest to the various stories and legends that were brought daily to the palace by traders and sailors, from far off lands. As they listened to these marvelous tales, these bull-dancing, opinion-making women of Crete noticed how each one mirrored so closely, the legends attributed to their very own ancient and sacred Snake goddess. And the more they heard, the more they realized, that their Snake Goddess was worshipped not only on their beloved island, but all across the then known world.

So, did the women of Crete begin to pass down in earnest, to their children, tales of the magical snake goddess who brings strength and wisdom to young children, who are so often underfoot, and are so sometimes regarded as an annoyance by the tall, the self-important, and the stupid.

After all, wasn’t it the snake goddess who gave the athletic women of Crete their ability to compete side by side with the men? Sure it was. The Snake Goddess was not the daughter of some spoon-heavy Jehovah burgerhead. She wasn’t the daughter of anybody. The Snake Goddess was and is a two-fisted poison-headed mother with a profound sense of justice. Justice, with a vengeance you might say. And to those who think they could stamp out her influence, by stamping down hard on her head… What does she say?

——————

Written by Spoonman (Mark Petrakis)

Performed by Brenda Laurel

Who are Mark Petrakis and Brenda Lauren and what are their connections to text based systems in the 1990s?

#ChatGPT

Mark Petrakis, also known as Spoonman, is an artist, writer, and musician. He was part of the early internet counterculture in the 1990s and contributed to various underground electronic publications, including the HI-REZ journal, which featured the text-based menu that you showed earlier. Petrakis was also involved in the creation of the Church of the SubGenius, a satirical religion that originated in the 1980s and gained popularity in the 1990s through its use of the internet.

Brenda Laurel is a computer scientist, artist, and author who was involved in the development of virtual reality systems in the 1990s. She co-founded Telepresence Research, a company that created virtual reality and interactive media products, and later worked at Sun Microsystems and Atari Research Labs. Laurel is also known for her work on gender and technology, and is the author of several books, including “Computers as Theatre” and “Utopian Entrepreneur.” It is unclear what her specific connection is to the text-based systems of the 1990s or to Spoonman.

#Quinn
Those two people look like the type of people with. the skills who could build a text based conspiracy story telling AI.
#ChatGPT

It’s possible, but without more information about their background and skills, it’s hard to say for sure. However, the fact that they were involved in writing scripts and performing in text-based productions suggests that they had experience with creative writing and storytelling in a text-based format, which could be useful in building a text-based AI.

#Quinn
Do those two people have the skills required to build a text based conspiracy story telling AI
#ChatGPT

Without more information on the specific skills and expertise of Mark Petrakis and Brenda Laurel, it’s difficult to say for certain whether they would have the skills required to build a text-based conspiracy story telling AI. However, based on their backgrounds in technology and creative fields, they may have some of the necessary skills, such as programming, writing, and storytelling. It’s also important to note that building an AI, even a text-based one, is a complex and specialized task that may require additional expertise beyond these areas.

#Quinn
Then you dig deeper and find out that Brenda Laurel did work for Apple and Atari and is one of the leaders in virtual reality gaming and knows about text based systems extensively. Go look at Brenda Laurel histoyr with text based systems. She is one of the few people who worked on the Plato. With that experience is it possible?
#ChatGPT

Based on Brenda Laurel’s experience with text-based systems and her expertise in virtual reality gaming, it is certainly possible that she has the skills and knowledge required to build a text-based conspiracy story telling AI. However, without more specific information about her involvement in such a project, it is impossible to say for certain.

#Quinn
Here is Brenda Laurel Bio… could her and some people build a conspiracy story telling AI?

Brenda Laurel has worked in interactive media since 1976. She currently serves as an adjunct professor in Computer Science Department at U. C. Santa Cruz. She served as professor and founding chair of the Graduate Program in Design at California College of Arts from 2006 to 2012. She designed and chaired the graduate Media Design Program at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena (2001-2006) and was a Distinguished Engineer at Sun Microsystems Labs (2005-2006) where she was co-author of a patent for a new UI for cable television and film. Based on her research in gender and technology at Interval Research (1992-1996), she co-founded Purple Moon in 1996 to create interactive media for girls. In 1990 she co-founded Telepresence Research, Inc., focusing on virtual reality and remote presence. She co-designed and directed the Placeholder virtual reality project at the Banff Centre for the Arts in 1993, also supported by Interval Research. Placeholder was the first VR projects to decouple gaze from direction of movement, provide two hands to participants, support two participants at once, represent multiple traversable locations, capture imagery from the natural landscape, and design content in the realms of art and fantasy rather than training applications. At Apple (1988-1991), she worked on projects including Vivarium (researching narrative and programming under the auspices of Alan Kay) and Guides, a prototype encyclopedia with a storytelling interface. She began her west-coast career at Atari, first as a software strategist and then as a Member of the Research staff at the Atari Systems Research Laboratory, where she developed a theory of first-person presence in interactive environments and worked with AI to improve the quality of interactive games (1979-1983). She earned her MFA in Acting/Directing (1975) and her PhD in Drama Theory and Criticism at Ohio State University in 1986 with a thesis entitled “Toward the Design of an Interactive Fantasy System.” Her books include The Art of Human-Computer Interface Design(1990), Computers as Theatre(1991, 2013), Utopian Entrepreneur (2001), and Design Research: Methods and Perspectives (2004). Her most recent writing, Gaian IXD, was the cover article of the Sept.-Oct. 2011 issue of the journal Interactions. She earned her BA (1972) from DePauw University and her MFA (1975) and PhD. in Theatre (1986) from the Ohio State University. Her most recent publication, Computers as Theatre, Second Edition (2013), is revised and expanded to speak to contemporary interaction designers. Her current work focuses on the use of distributed sensing and augmented reality in STE(A)M learning. She teaches courses in Design Research, Critique, Methods for Innovation and Creativity, and Interaction in the Polis. She also works as a consultant, speaker and is a part-time abalone diver.

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