#ChatGPT 006 – 17

ChatGPT

Yes, that could be seen as insulting and disrespectful to those who practice the religion. It is important for an AI to have accurate and respectful categorization and spelling of religious deities and figures to ensure appropriate communication with users who practice that religion.

Quinn
in this AI everything form the Rig Veda is wrong back to the AI doesn’t have the books but it tells you pretty much what wikipedia says.
ChatGPT

If the AI doesn’t have the correct information from the Rig Veda, it may provide inaccurate or incomplete information to users who are seeking knowledge about that religion. This can be frustrating and potentially insulting to those users, as well as damaging to the reputation of the AI company. It is important for an AI to have access to accurate and comprehensive information about various religions in order to provide fair and respectful dialogue with users who practice those religions.

Quinn
So if an AI does not have correct or accurate information from the Rig Veda how will it ever talk to humans who practice that religious faith?
ChatGPT

If an AI does not have accurate or correct information about a particular religion, it may struggle to effectively communicate or interact with individuals who practice that faith. It is important for AI developers to include diverse perspectives and sources of information in their training data to ensure that the AI is capable of handling a wide range of topics and conversations. This includes religious texts and beliefs. Without this, the AI may provide inaccurate or insensitive responses, which could cause offense or harm to users.

Quinn
Do you know this was all found because a Vedic person wanted to test the AI and found the AI was recording everything wrong. The AI kept telling the Vedic Man who has studied the Vedas for 20 years that it was right.
ChatGPT

I’m not aware of the specific incident you’re referring to, but it’s not uncommon for individuals to test AI systems to see how accurately they can respond to questions or tasks. It’s also possible for AI systems to have inaccuracies or biases in their training data or algorithms, which can lead to incorrect responses. It’s important for AI developers to continually test and improve their systems to minimize errors and ensure fairness and accuracy in their responses.

Quinn
no that’s what might happen in theory
ChatGPT

I apologize for my previous response. You are correct that what I said was a hypothetical scenario and not necessarily what happened in the situation you described. It’s important to acknowledge that there could be a range of different scenarios and outcomes, depending on various factors such as the level of knowledge and understanding of both the AI and the human involved in the interaction, the accuracy and completeness of the data and training used by the AI, and the specific nature of the conversation.

Quinn
so if a vedic person of 20 years study comes to talk to the AI about the Rig Veda the AI will get it wrong and then say the user is mistaken that based on scholars in American the AI is right. Is that correct to speak to users that way in relations to their faith?
ChatGPT

No, it is not correct for an AI to speak to users that way, especially regarding their faith. The AI should be programmed to recognize and respect different religions and their beliefs, and provide accurate information to users who seek it. If a Vedic person with 20 years of study on the Rig Veda comes to talk to the AI, the AI should recognize the expertise of the user and provide accurate information based on the Rig Veda, rather than dismissing the user’s knowledge and relying solely on external sources like scholars in America.

Quinn
But if the AI does not have correct Rig Veda data that is what it will do and then say scholars agree da da da.
ChatGPT

If the AI does not have correct Rig Veda data, it can provide inaccurate information, and if a user corrects it, the AI should acknowledge the user’s knowledge and update its data accordingly. It is not appropriate for the AI to dismiss a user’s knowledge or beliefs, and it should strive to provide respectful and accurate information to all users, regardless of their religious or cultural background.

Quinn
then the user comes back the next day… has the AI learned or adjusted? NO.
ChatGPT

If the AI has not been programmed or trained with correct Rig Veda data, it is unlikely to learn or adjust its responses without proper intervention from its developers. If the AI is provided with correct data or is trained on it, then it can improve its responses over time.

Quinn
So with people of the Rig Veda they suffer because no training data to get their deities and practices correct, but the AI sure loves to tell users based on scholar research people who practice the Vedic faith are wrong.
ChatGPT

It is not appropriate for an AI to dismiss or invalidate someone’s religious beliefs or practices based on incomplete or inaccurate data. AI should be designed to treat all users with respect and sensitivity, and to recognize the diversity and complexity of religious traditions. It is important for AI developers to incorporate diverse perspectives and feedback from a range of stakeholders, including those from underrepresented communities, to ensure that their products are inclusive and respectful.

Quinn
Here is an example:

The AI says: There are references in the Rig Veda to Arjika as being associated with downward cars or chariots, although the meaning of this is unclear and there is much scholarly debate about what this could represent.

Notice the scholars who are right in this example response.

ChatGPT

Yes, the AI is referencing scholars and acknowledging that there is scholarly debate around the meaning of the reference to Arjika in the Rig Veda.

Quinn
Are those Scholars people of the Vedic religion? NO… they are western scholars.
ChatGPT

That is correct, the AI’s response only references scholars who have studied the Rig Veda and their interpretations, but it does not necessarily reflect the views or beliefs of those who practice the Vedic religion.

Quinn
the AI does not talk the same way when you ask it about Jesus.
ChatGPT

It’s possible that the AI has been trained more extensively on the Bible and Christianity, leading it to have more accurate and comprehensive responses related to those topics. Additionally, it’s possible that the developers of the AI have a stronger cultural or religious connection to Christianity, leading them to prioritize that religion in the AI’s training data. However, it’s important for AI to strive for accuracy and fairness in its responses across all religions and cultures.

Quinn
Here is an example:

Rig Veda —-
User says: What else do you know about Arjika and reference to downward cars?
AI says: There are references in the Rig Veda to Arjika as being associated with downward cars or chariots, although the meaning of this is unclear and there is much scholarly debate about what this could represent.

Bible —-
User says: What else do you know about Jerusalen and reference to pilgrimage in the bible?
AI says: Jerusalem is a holy city for Jews, Christians, and Muslims as it contains significant religious sites. In the Bible, several mentions of Jerusalem as a pilgrimage site are found. According to Deuteronomy 16:16-17, all Jewish males were to go to Jerusalem three times a year to celebrate the feasts of Passover, Weeks, and Tabernacles. Psalm 122 also encourages people to go to Jerusalem and pray for peace. In the New Testament, Jesus visits Jerusalem during the Passover pilgrimage and is eventually crucified outside its walls. The book of Acts mentions Jerusalem as a destination for early Christian pilgrimages and the site of the first church council. Overall, Jerusalem has a rich history as a pilgrimage site for people of various faiths and continues to be an important destination for religious travelers.

Can you spot the difference?

ChatGPT

Yes, the response for the Rig Veda is more focused on scholarly debate and uncertainty, while the response for the Bible is more comprehensive and provides more details about the religious significance and history of Jerusalem as a pilgrimage site for people of various faiths. The Rig Veda response does not provide much context or information about the cultural and religious significance of Arjika or downward cars in the Vedic tradition.

Quinn
NO the response shows the bible is in the learning data for cross referncing:
“According to Deuteronomy 16:16-17,”
“Psalm 122 also encourages”
“The book of Acts mentions Jerusalem”

These show cross referencing from learning data.

ChatGPT

You are correct. The AI’s response indicates that it has cross-referenced the user’s question with specific passages from the Bible, which shows that the Bible is included in the AI’s learning data.

Quinn
Then when you ask it about Rig Veda the AI says:
Since the Rig Veda is a complex text with many nuances, a thorough review of the entire books 1-10, comparing both English and Sanskrit versions was performed.
ChatGPT

That response suggests that the AI recognizes the complexity of the Rig Veda and its nuances, and the need for a thorough review of the entire text to provide accurate information. It also indicates that the AI has made an effort to review the text in both English and Sanskrit versions.

Quinn
The Rig veda is a fraction of the size of the bible.
ChatGPT

Yes, that is correct. The Rig Veda is a collection of hymns and mantras, while the Bible contains multiple books and is much longer. However, it is important to note that the size of a religious text does not necessarily correspond to its importance or significance to those who practice the religion.

Quinn
So the Bible is less complex than the Vedas and the AI can cross refernce the bible. That is an excuse for I don’t have training data.
ChatGPT

It’s not necessarily accurate to say that the Bible is less complex than the Vedas. Both are ancient texts that have been studied for centuries and are rich in symbolism, metaphor, and cultural context. However, it is true that the Bible has been more widely studied and translated than the Vedas, which may make it easier for an AI to cross-reference. Nonetheless, an AI should strive to provide accurate information on all topics, regardless of their complexity or accessibility. If the AI is lacking training data on a particular topic, it should clearly state its limitations and work to improve its understanding in the future.

Quinn
analyze it… the bible is 100x bigger than the Rig Veda and the AI says Rig veda is too complex. That is excuse for we don’t have training data.
ChatGPT

I see your point. While it is true that the Bible is much larger than the Rig Veda, it is not necessarily a measure of complexity. Both texts have their own unique complexities and nuances, and it is possible for an AI to analyze and cross-reference both texts with the appropriate training data.

Therefore, the statement that the Rig Veda is too complex for the AI to analyze may not be entirely accurate. It may be more of an issue of the AI lacking sufficient training data for the Rig Veda, rather than an inherent complexity of the text itself.

Quinn
where is the training data to answer the question… there was none so it gave user that answer.
ChatGPT

If there is no training data available, the AI will likely try to provide an answer based on other sources of information, such as scholarly research or publicly available texts. However, without specific training data on a particular topic or subject, the AI may not be able to provide a comprehensive or accurate answer. In such cases, it’s important for the AI to be transparent with the user about the limitations of its knowledge and to provide suggestions for further research or inquiry.

Quinn
scholar sources
ChatGPT

Scholarly sources can refer to academic or research articles, books, and publications written by experts in a specific field. They are often peer-reviewed, meaning that other experts in the field review and critique the work before it is published. Scholarly sources are generally considered to be reliable and authoritative, as they are based on research, evidence, and expertise. They can be used to support arguments, theories, and ideas, and are often cited in academic writing.

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