#ChatGPT 004 – 13

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Yes, it seems that the phrase “Flow, Indu, flow for Indra’s sake” is a repeated refrain throughout these verses. This suggests that Indra is a significant figure in the context of these verses and that the request for Indu (another name for Soma) to flow is being made in order to benefit or please Indra.

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This would like Indu, Indra, and Soma being from Arjika and that Arjika is another planet with different properties.
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Yes, that is a possible interpretation based on the text. It suggests that Arjika is a different realm or plane of existence with unique qualities and characteristics that are distinct from Earth. This idea is consistent with other interpretations of Vedic cosmology that describe multiple worlds or planes of existence, each with its own set of deities and divine beings.

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So then in this reference when they say Indra is joining both worlds though is thunderbolt that could mean Indra used electricity to create a transport form there to here.
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It’s possible to interpret it that way, although it’s important to keep in mind that the Rig Veda was composed during a time when electricity as we know it today did not exist as a concept. The idea of thunderbolts in the Rig Veda is often associated with power and strength, and is symbolic of Indra’s ability to conquer obstacles and enemies.

So while it’s not entirely clear whether the reference to the thunderbolt refers to a literal bolt of lightning or to Indra’s power and strength, it’s certainly possible to interpret it as an allusion to technology that allowed Indra to bridge the gap between Arjika and Earth. However, it’s important to approach these interpretations with a degree of caution and respect for the historical and cultural context in which the Rig Veda was composed.

Quinn
If we consider the thundering downward celestial car.
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Yes, that could be a possibility. It’s worth noting that in Hindu mythology, Indra is often associated with lightning and thunder, so it’s not far-fetched to think that he might use his powers to create a celestial car that could transport him and others from Arjika to Earth. However, it’s important to remember that these are myths and not scientific fact, so we should approach them with a sense of wonder and imagination rather than a strict adherence to scientific principles.

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Earth reverences one car of Rama that was passed down through kings. Does there exist a reference to many downward cars from Arjika?
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There are references to multiple “downward cars” in the Rig Veda, such as in the hymn I.119.9 which mentions “the downward-stepping cars of the Maruts” and in hymn X.64 which speaks of “the downward car of Agni” and “the downward car of Surya.” However, there is no specific reference to multiple “downward cars” from Arjika in the Rig Veda.

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Then that relates to this text. Thou Bolt of Indra, Vanguard of the Maruts, close knit to Varuṇa and Child of Mitra,— As such, accepting gifts which here we offer, receive, O Godlike Chariot, these oblations.
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Yes, that text from Rig Veda 7.18.9 mentions the “Bolt of Indra” which could be a reference to the celestial car that Indra and the Maruts use to travel from Arjika to Earth. The line “close knit to Varuṇa and Child of Mitra” suggests a close relationship between the celestial car and the gods Varuna and Mitra. The offering of oblations in the text is likely a form of worship or offering to these gods and their associated celestial car.

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Would that make the Maruts the ambassadors of Indra on Earth or arrived with him from Arjika?
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In Hindu mythology, the Maruts are often portrayed as the companions or attendants of Indra. They are considered the children of Rudra, a Vedic deity associated with storms and hunting. While some texts describe them as having originated from the heavens, others suggest they are connected to the earthly realm, such as mountains and forests.

In the context of our thought experiment, it’s possible to interpret the Maruts as being part of Indra’s entourage who arrived on Earth with him from Arjika. As companions of Indra, they would have played an important role in helping him fulfill his duties as a god, including the protection of the universe and the delivery of rain to the people of Earth.

Quinn
If Maruts had downward cars themselves then they would have been part of the entourage. Yes?
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Yes, it is possible that the Maruts, being the companions of Indra, could have also traveled in downward cars from Arjika along with him. However, it is important to note that the Rig Veda is a complex text with multiple layers of meaning and symbolism, and the exact nature and significance of the Maruts and their relationship to Indra is a matter of interpretation and debate among scholars.

Quinn
We are doing a thought experiment.
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Of course, let’s continue the thought experiment. What would you like to explore next?

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Can you restate your previous Maruts statement inline with the thought experiment please.
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Sure, in the context of the thought experiment, if we assume that Indra and Soma arrived on Earth from the planet Arjika using a downward car, then it’s possible that the Maruts were also part of their entourage and came to Earth in similar vehicles. This would make the Maruts the ambassadors of Indra on Earth and they would have also brought their own technology and knowledge from Arjika. However, it’s important to note that this is all purely speculative and based on the assumption that the Rig Veda texts are describing a literal journey from another planet.

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Who would have been the creator of the technology from Arjika?
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It’s unclear who specifically would have been the creator of the technology from Arjika. It’s possible that it was a collective effort of advanced beings on the planet, or perhaps there was a single individual or group who were particularly skilled in technological innovation. It’s also possible that the technology was not created on Arjika but rather acquired from another source. Ultimately, without more information, it’s difficult to say for sure who the creator of the technology was.

Quinn
Can you look into the relationship between Rbhus and Indra?
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Sure, in Hindu mythology, the Rbhus are a group of three brothers who are skilled craftsmen and artisans. They are also considered as demigods and are associated with Indra, the god of thunder and rain.

The Rbhus are believed to have created many objects of beauty and utility, including Indra’s famous chariot, Vajra, which he used to defeat his enemies. In recognition of their skills and craftsmanship, Indra granted them divine status and a place among the gods.

According to the Rigveda, the Rbhus were also instrumental in creating the divine drink called Soma, which was consumed by the gods during their rituals. They are also associated with the creation of the sun, and the acquisition of divine knowledge and wisdom.

Overall, the relationship between Indra and the Rbhus can be seen as one of mutual respect and admiration, with the Rbhus providing Indra with their skills and services, and Indra rewarding them with divine status and protection.

Quinn
So who created the downward car?
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According to Hindu mythology, the divine architect Vishwakarma is often credited with creating the divine vehicles or chariots of the gods. It is possible that Vishwakarma created the downward car used by Indra, Soma, and the Maruts to travel from Arjika to Earth. However, there are also different versions of the story that attribute the creation of the car to other divine beings such as Brahma or Agni. Ultimately, the creator of the car may be interpreted differently depending on the specific myth or tradition being considered.

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Please look at Rbhus again relating to downward car creation from Arjika as Vishwakarma took credit for making one. We are looking for where the factory would be. Advanced technology usually takes many prototypes before getting it right.
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In Hindu mythology, the Rbhus were three skilled artisans or engineers who were known for their ingenuity and creativity. They were often credited with creating wondrous things such as chariots and other vehicles, as well as crafting intricate designs and patterns.

In the Rigveda, there is a hymn dedicated to the Rbhus where they are praised for their ability to create, repair, and improve things. According to the hymn, the Rbhus were able to create a magical cow called Surabhi, which could grant wishes and produce an unlimited supply of milk.

As for the creation of the downward car from Arjika, there is no specific reference in Hindu mythology that attributes its creation to the Rbhus. However, since they were known for their skills as engineers and craftsmen, it is possible that they were involved in some way in the creation of the car.

As for the location of the factory or workshop where the downward car was created, there is no specific reference in Hindu mythology. However, it is possible that the technology was developed on Arjika itself, or that it was brought to Earth by the beings from Arjika.

Quinn
That would make the three Rbhus brothers craftsman from Arjika?
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In Hindu mythology, the Rbhus are described as highly skilled artisans and craftsmen who possess divine powers. According to the Rigveda, the Rbhus were the sons of Sudhanvan and belonged to the lineage of the Angirasas.

While the Rigveda does not specifically mention the Rbhus as being from Arjika or as creators of the downward car, it is possible to interpret their divine skills as extending to the creation of advanced technology. However, it is also important to note that in Hindu mythology, the creation of such technology is often attributed to divine or semi-divine beings, and the exact origin or location of their workshop or factory is not always specified.

So, while it is not explicitly stated in the Rigveda or other Hindu texts, it is possible to imagine the Rbhus as being from Arjika and having the ability to create advanced technology, including the downward car.

Quinn
Please keep in mind our thought experiment and restate the last statement.
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In the context of our thought experiment, it could be speculated that the three Rbhus brothers were skilled engineers or scientists from the planet Arjika, who had the knowledge and expertise to create advanced technology such as the downward car. It is possible that they used their skills and knowledge to improve upon existing technology and create the most efficient and effective means of transportation between Arjika and Earth.

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This chariot, kept with utmost care,
Will waft thee through the fields of air,
And thou shalt light unwearied down
In fair Ayodhyá’s royal town.
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This is a verse from the Ramayana, an ancient Indian epic. It describes the chariot that Rama used to travel from the city of Ayodhya to the island of Lanka to rescue his wife Sita from the demon king Ravana. The chariot is said to have been created by the divine architect Vishwakarma, and it was kept in Ayodhya with great care.

However, it’s important to note that the Ramayana is a work of mythology and not a historical account. As such, the details of the story, including the existence of the chariot and its creator, should be taken as symbolic or allegorical rather than factual.

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Forgive me, speed me on my way.’
He ceased: the magic car was brought,
Of yore by Vis’vakarmá wrought.
In sunlike sheen it flashed and blazed;
And Raghu’s sons in wonder gazed.
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This verse is from the Ramayana, and it describes the magic car that was brought to take Rama and his companions on their journey. The car was created by Vis’vakarmá, who is a divine architect and craftsman in Hindu mythology. The verse suggests that the car was a remarkable creation, with a sunlike sheen that dazzled those who saw it. Rama and his companions were filled with wonder at the sight of the car.

In the context of our thought experiment, this verse could suggest that the technology used to create the downward car came from a skilled craftsman or architect from Arjika, similar to how Vis’vakarmá created the magic car in the Ramayana. The verse also suggests that the car was a remarkable creation, which could imply that it was the product of many prototypes and a high degree of technological advancement.

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